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bfarber.com Case Study |
Jun 9 2007, 03:59 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Customers Posts: 15 Joined: 5-June 07 Member No.: 232 |
Some may or may not know already, but I was asked about the CommunitySEO development team to install the software on a site of mine, and to review it overall. I've been given access to the source code, under an NDA, and will be reporting back on that a bit later after I can look through it more thoroughly. For now though, I wanted to go ahead and start the review of my experience so far.
I'm attaching my relevant awstats statistics I pulled for the last few months, as well as my site: search results in Google, MSN, Yahoo, and Ask.com. Here are the highlights though Google: site:bfarber.com 38,900 link:bfarber.com 211 Yahoo: site:bfarber.com 10 link:bfarber.com Inlinks 13,092 MSN: site:bfarber.com 1,183 link:bfarber.com 0 linkdomain:bfarber.com 0 Ask.com bfarber.com 683 The site has been up for a few years now (and note, I no longer own it, however the owner is cool and has let me install this module anyways). I noticed that it doesn't play too nicely with my custom portal due to edits to index.php. I'll have to have a look at that soon, as my forum index isn't immediately accessible right now. The site has 61,846 members and 38,359 posts. The module was installed June 5th give or take. CODE Month Unique Total Page Views Hits Bandwidth Jan 2007 85271 99384 521372 6720562 492.37 GB Feb 2007 111484 131230 949934 6820053 412.73 GB Mar 2007 52902 62758 597369 2302845 68.20 GB Apr 2007 45069 54094 617394 2570017 97.88 GB May 2007 72576 86803 699900 3340855 102.91 GB And spider hits for May CODE May Robots/Spiders visitors 18 different robots Hits Bandwidth Last visit Googlebot 73357+24 1.35 GB 31 May 2007 - 23:54 MSNBot 35025+1507 1.80 GB 31 May 2007 - 23:57 Unknown robot (identified by 'spider') 18856+1080 1.05 GB 31 May 2007 - 22:05 Unknown robot (identified by 'robot') 8570+58 123.88 MB 31 May 2007 - 23:55 Voila 3445+4727 46.85 MB 31 May 2007 - 23:51 Unknown robot (identified by 'crawl') 7531+136 361.21 MB 31 May 2007 - 23:57 Inktomi Slurp 682+576 9.83 MB 31 May 2007 - 21:41 Unknown robot (identified by hit on 'robots.txt') 0+1081 324.84 KB 31 May 2007 - 23:39 Internet Shinchakubin 960+2 30.57 MB 31 May 2007 - 17:24 EchO! 960 17.26 MB 31 May 2007 - 20:19 Scooter 146+2 1.53 MB 15 May 2007 - 04:13 AskJeeves 69+35 3.97 MB 29 May 2007 - 06:06 Alexa (IA Archiver) 0+47 14.14 KB 31 May 2007 - 00:39 Lycos 8+5 428.46 KB 27 May 2007 - 18:01 Voyager 6+4 256.30 KB 30 May 2007 - 01:07 Walhello appie 4+4 376.88 KB 18 May 2007 - 19:17 Netcraft 3 282.42 KB 25 May 2007 - 06:29 Nomad 1 163.29 KB 04 May 2007 - 05:30 there are more details in the attached file (Jan - May plus inbound links from search engines data for Jan-May). Now, it's only been a few days, not even a week, and already Google seems to be mostly updated. The number of pages in Google has gone down it seems, to 38,500, however that could very well be due to removing duplicate content too. I'm going to keep my eye on it and see what happens. Yahoo still has old data. Not sure if I need to submit my site to Yahoo or something? MSN still shows old links still too. I will continue posting updates as time goes on and there's more to really see. I'll also post my review of the code here soon too. I need more time to go through it completely though.
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Jun 9 2007, 05:01 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Customers Posts: 15 Joined: 5-June 07 Member No.: 232 |
I also managed to fix the bug I noticed where I couldn't access the forum index. My custom portal was loading up instead. It did not require any edits to the community seo files - just a couple to index.php.
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Jun 9 2007, 06:11 AM
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Customers Posts: 77 Joined: 30-May 07 Member No.: 216 |
It's nice for you to do this Brandon, as one of IPB's primary coders. Very reassuring
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Jun 15 2007, 07:52 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Customers Posts: 52 Joined: 15-June 07 Member No.: 253 |
I'm using your portal as a frontpage, if I install this product will I get in trouble?
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Jun 28 2007, 03:02 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 28-June 07 From: San Diego Member No.: 284 |
Now that I see that Bfarber is here messing with this product that is quite a bit of re-assurance in the product. I have just set aside to budget for this software for my site at the end of next month....so here is another sale based off of bfarber!
Thanks William SoCalSportRiders.com -------------------- |
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Jun 28 2007, 04:10 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Customers Posts: 52 Joined: 15-June 07 Member No.: 253 |
Yes, I can say this as well. Seeing bfarber here testing the product made my decision. And I probably will buy another licence soon.
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Jul 4 2007, 05:31 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Customers Posts: 15 Joined: 5-June 07 Member No.: 232 |
Ok, as promised here is my monthly update.
Links in MSN have gone up, while in other search engines I'm seeing less. I don't see this as a problem, however, because it would seem that it's duplicate content being removed. Google: site:bfarber.com 30,500 link:bfarber.com 200 Yahoo: site:bfarber.com 11 link:bfarber.com Inlinks 15,993 MSN: site:bfarber.com 1,354 link:bfarber.com 0 linkdomain:bfarber.com 0 Ask.com bfarber.com 344 We did have a problem for a couple days that may have played a part as well. PHP was updated and ioncube wasn't reinstalled - so we got an error about the ioncube loaders for a day or two until the host fixed that. Most of the links in Google are now the static versions. I note that some have the mode= parameter still. I would love to see an option to redirect those to the default mode on the site. Very few people actually use mode=threaded in all reality, and I would be ok with shutting down the option entirely with the result being that none of those get indexed (or rather, they get redirected to the default viewing mode). Likewise I would like to see an option to put the filename for downloads in the page name. I submitted that here: http://communityseo.com/forums/Download-ma...inks-t1398.html Traffic was slower this month than normal, however it is comparable to June 2006. Traditionally, traffic spikes a little again this month (July), goes down in August, and jumps up again in September and October. I will try to post reports after each month to see how this module affects things. While some search terms bfarber.com has not changed in, the two top search terms we have gone up significantly. If you recall, here was our search term stats prior to the module being installed QUOTE login screens (not even in the top 30) Here is our current rankingxp login screens 4 visual styles (not even in the top 100) xp visual styles( not in top 40) boot screens( not in top 50) xp boot screens( not in top 40) xp customization 15-16 QUOTE login screens 9 xp login screens 1 visual styles (not even in the top 100) xp visual styles( not in top 40) boot screens( not in top 50) xp boot screens( not in top 40) xp customization 15-16 Whereas we were not even listed in the first 30 results for "login screens" before, we are now number 9, putting us on page 1 in google. Additionally, we have gone up to number 1 for "xp login screens". 62,113 members 38,397 posts We do not have a lot of posting (most people register to download). Registration has gone up. 288 registrations in June, compared to 257 in May and 187 in April. In reality, posting stats have gone up drastically for June too. 37 posts in June compared to 12 in May and 22 in April. These stats taken from the IPB ACP Statistics Center. Same situation with new topic stats - 14 in June compared to 5 in May and 10 in April. Overall, activity is apparently up, even if traffic is done. This would tend to make me believe that we have more quality traffic now. CODE June 42746 unique visitors 50612 total visits 553807 page views + 302014 not viewed 2296671 hits + 350004 not viewed 92.31 GB bandwidth CODE Month Unique Total Page Views Hits Bandwidth Jun 2007 42746 50612 553807 2296671 92.31 GB CODE Jun Robots/Spiders visitors 18 different robots Hits Bandwidth Last visit Googlebot 75505+51 1.28 GB 30 Jun 2007 - 23:58 MSNBot 16177+1447 932.02 MB 30 Jun 2007 - 23:56 Unknown robot (identified by 'robot') 9847+88 288.17 MB 30 Jun 2007 - 23:59 Unknown robot (identified by 'crawl') 8301+193 144.17 MB 30 Jun 2007 - 21:06 Voila 1431+2017 15.92 MB 30 Jun 2007 - 23:59 Unknown robot (identified by 'spider') 2926+400 145.25 MB 30 Jun 2007 - 21:06 Yahoo Slurp 884+858 10.95 MB 30 Jun 2007 - 23:59 Scooter 1120+14 10.35 MB 27 Jun 2007 - 20:05 Unknown robot (identified by hit on 'robots.txt') 0+852 248.83 KB 30 Jun 2007 - 23:59 Internet Shinchakubin 789+2 49.89 MB 30 Jun 2007 - 18:22 echo 435+1 15.95 MB 30 Jun 2007 - 23:55 Alexa (IA Archiver) 89+64 7.34 MB 30 Jun 2007 - 08:55 Ask 105+45 5.69 MB 30 Jun 2007 - 23:53 Lycos 10+7 469.83 KB 13 Jun 2007 - 11:42 Voyager 6+9 315.18 KB 30 Jun 2007 - 00:13 Walhello appie 2+3 20.42 KB 26 Jun 2007 - 22:34 LinkWalker 0+1 298 Bytes 18 Jun 2007 - 12:39 Nomad 1 1.03 MB 26 Jun 2007 - 01:18 Jun Links from an Internet Search Engine 30 different refering search engines Pages Percent Hits Percent Google (Images) 35302 78 % 82975 81.3 % Yahoo! 6784 14.9 % 14516 14.2 % Google 1698 3.7 % 1799 1.7 % AltaVista 459 1 % 463 0.4 % MSN Search 277 0.6 % 553 0.5 % Unknown search engines 261 0.5 % 491 0.4 % AOL 246 0.5 % 387 0.3 % Dogpile 56 0.1 % 100 0 % Ask 54 0.1 % 86 0 % Netscape 22 0 % 36 0 % Excite 21 0 % 195 0.1 % AllTheWeb 20 0 % 117 0.1 % MetaCrawler (Metamoteur) 9 0 % 9 0 % WebCrawler 8 0 % 8 0 % DMOZ 4 0 % 4 0 % AOL (fr) 4 0 % 8 0 % Search.com 3 0 % 4 0 % Earth Link 2 0 % 2 0 % search.ch 2 0 % 2 0 % InfoSpace 2 0 % 2 0 % Go.com 2 0 % 125 0.1 % ix quick 2 0 % 9 0 % Yandex 2 0 % 2 0 % Aport 1 0 % 1 0 % Tiscali 1 0 % 23 0 % Club-internet 1 0 % 1 0 % Baidu 1 0 % 31 0 % Lycos 1 0 % 46 0 % Rambler 1 0 % 1 0 % Mamma 1 0 % 1 0 % Jun Search Keywords (Top 25) evil 554 2.9 % clown 553 2.9 % windows 538 2.8 % wallpapers 448 2.3 % tia 404 2.1 % wallpaper 398 2 % playboy 387 2 % xp 365 1.9 % bunny 345 1.8 % carrera 321 1.6 % vida 320 1.6 % akuma 259 1.3 % boondock 258 1.3 % saints 258 1.3 % guerra 250 1.3 % blue 226 1.1 % kittie 219 1.1 % killswitch 207 1 % theater 200 1 % dream 198 1 % star 193 1 % engage 192 1 % wars 180 0.9 % electra 170 0.8 % carmen 169 0.8 % Other words 11451 60 % Some things to point out from these statistics compared to May:
CODE 301 Moved permanently (redirect) 149320 65.9 % 556.15 KB 302 Moved temporarily (redirect) 26362 11.6 % 5.68 MB All in all, there hasn't been much change in June yet, however Google has nearly updated all their links to the site, and our ranking for our two top key phrases have shot up drastically. I expect even better results in July, especially as I sign up for webmaster tools and see what Google can help with. See next post for details of my review of the code |
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Jul 4 2007, 05:48 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Customers Posts: 15 Joined: 5-June 07 Member No.: 232 |
Now, I signed an NDA so I can't get into many of the details, but I agreed to write up a review of the code as I was provided an unencoded copy. The developers felt that if I took a look at it and gave my ok, it might ease some people's concerns about using an encoded product.
File Edits: The file edits that are needed are unfortunately unavoidable. It helps me seeing this where we can add useful hooks down the road so developers can hook into the software without modifying it, but even then it is unlikely we'd be able to capture all locations a hook might be useful. There are many output exit points in IPB, and because this module operates on the output, each needs to be hooked into. This is the reason for edits to class_display.php and class_ajax.php for example. All in all, the edits are likely as streamlined as they get for now. Code Execution: The coding is great - it is object-oriented, just like IPB itself, and it thoroughly uses IPB's objects and methods. For example, it does not create a new database connection to grab data like similar topic - instead it uses the existing connection (as it should). It is very organized and clear (though this should hardly be a factor in anyone's purchase of the software, given that they can't see the code anyways). The rewritting methodology is really what is impressive. I expected to see 100 preg_replace statements in the main rewritting function, but that is hardly the case. They use a couple to get all the topic ids and member ids into an array so that the titles and member names can be loaded from the database. Then one preg_replace is run on the content to replace the URL's. They use the preg_replace_callback function, which is considered "better" than preg_replace with the /e modifier for security reasons, which is good. The callback function is very genius in how it determines how to rewrite urls. I must say, they have implemented the absolute best rewriting method I've seen to date (I have looked at FURL by kim, and Minerva Alpha releases). This is likely why there is no overhead in loading the pages (at least in the current release - I hear past releases were not so fortunate). All in all, I give the coding 2 thumbs up, and kudos for the creativity. Areas of Improvement: What kind of review would this be without some constructive criticism? More "titles" in the URLs - I'd like to see the filename for downloads added to the link, and I'm assuming we'd see the same thing for blog entries and gallery images too. Plugin support - it would be nice to be able to use this addon to rewrite other areas of the site, and/or for developers to hook into somehow. For example, it would be trivial for me to update my links system to use this module, if it did not require me to edit the already encoded file. Documentation - would be nice to see a comprehensive documentation of what each and every setting in the ACP does, and which settings you do not want to set to conflict with other settings. SEO is like voodoo for most people, so the more information that CommunitySEO can provide, the better. Redirects - this is a tough one. I've seen some of the bugs reported and reviewed the code that does redirects as a result. Essentially what I think would need to happen is to have a setting that says "only allow one url per page" and then any other incoming links to that page not using the one url would be redirected to the correct url. This would mean that no mode= links would work. Also, there is that problem with the title anchoring (jumping to posts) which is tricky because IPB uses p= sometimes and gopid= sometimes and pid= sometimes, and so on. All in all, it seems like a decision just needs to be made as to which functionality can be sacrificed. Could make it all configurable too. Sitemap - while I see how and why it is made the way it is, I'm not fond of it being recycled completely at intervals. I would suggest looking into ways to improve this. This isn't a huge deal really, but would be my recommendation. Feature Requests: Might be nice to see plugin and hook support, as well as possibly an HTML sitemap. HTML sitemap would be essentially the lofi version though, so not sure if it's worth it. I would like to see configurable robots.txt from the ACP, and maybe configurable rewriting options? That would be tricky though I imagine. Final Opinion: This really is an excellent product. I would advise anyone worried about using an encoded product not to be. There are no callbacks in the software (except during the installation if you check the "Validate my key" checkbox) and the code-style is on par with any other top ipb modder or php developer. I saw no security issues in reviewing the code either. SEO is one of those things that's hard to pin down too, but I think in terms of "what can a software package add to my site to help my search engine ranking/positioning" this product has just about everything that you can think of or need. All I would like to see now is more polishing and attention to minor details. I can't wait for the next major version. |
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Jul 4 2007, 06:04 AM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Customers Posts: 52 Joined: 15-June 07 Member No.: 253 |
Nice review bfarber, I can agree about this one also:
"Plugin support - it would be nice to be able to use this addon to rewrite other areas of the site, and/or for developers to hook into somehow. For example, it would be trivial for me to update my links system to use this module, if it did not require me to edit the already encoded file." |
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Jul 5 2007, 06:21 AM
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Administrator ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Root Admin Posts: 4,991 Joined: 25-January 07 Member No.: 1 |
Thanks again for taking the time to do this!
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Jul 5 2007, 05:26 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2 Joined: 28-June 07 From: San Diego Member No.: 284 |
That was a full nights worth of work, eh?
Thanks that was a great review and it really does confirm, my choice to purchase later this month! -------------------- |
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Jul 5 2007, 05:35 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 5-July 07 Member No.: 305 |
Thanks Bfarber.
What is NDA? |
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Jul 5 2007, 11:03 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Customers Posts: 209 Joined: 23-March 07 From: Birmingham, AL Member No.: 57 |
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Jul 23 2007, 09:16 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Customers Posts: 209 Joined: 23-March 07 From: Birmingham, AL Member No.: 57 |
How this month looking so far?
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Aug 7 2007, 05:37 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Customers Posts: 15 Joined: 5-June 07 Member No.: 232 |
Time for an update me thinks.
Google: site:bfarber.com 19,400 link:bfarber.com 197 Yahoo: site:bfarber.com Seems to be broken? link:bfarber.com Inlinks Seems to be broken? I can't seem to do site: and link: queries through Yahoo anymore - just gives me a blank white screen MSN: site:bfarber.com 4542 link:bfarber.com 0 linkdomain:bfarber.com 0 Ask.com bfarber.com 328 It seems like MSN has really picked up their indexing. They've jumped over the past month. Also, Google slowly trims out all the duplicate content - I don't hardly see any duplicate content for my site in Google anymore, outside of my portal which can load via an autocom= link, and the home.html built in link. I could fix that I suppose if I had the ambition. Search term position presently QUOTE login screens 9 xp login screens 1 visual styles (not even in the top 100) xp visual styles( not in top 40) boot screens( not in top 50) xp boot screens( not in top 40) bootscreens 8 xp logon screens 8 logonxp file 1 [b]xp bootscreens 2 xp customization 15-16 This is about the same as last month. Through Google's Webmaster Tools I found other search queries I was ranking for, as outlined above, that were similar to what I was searching for previously. After my experiments here are done, I should probably find a way to edge in on the actual terms I originally searched for, as that is what a normal user would probably search for. CODE July 23865 unique visitors 28598 total visits 485521 page views + 265901 not viewed 1837000 hits + 310666 not viewed 79.00 GB GB bandwidth CODE Month Unique Total Page Views Hits Bandwidth Jul 2007 23865 28598 485521 1837000 79.00 GB Traffic has obviously gone down a little in the last month. I'm not sure what to make of that just yet, though if I had to guess - it's likely due to more people adopting Windows Vista and having less interest in customizing XP. The site will likely need to take new direction very soon to stay alive. CODE Robots/Spiders visitors 21 different robots Hits Bandwidth Last visit Googlebot 55824+39 1.74 GB 31 Jul 2007 - 21:51 MSNBot 23649+1349 1.18 GB 31 Jul 2007 - 23:59 Unknown robot (identified by 'robot') 10385+88 326.21 MB 31 Jul 2007 - 20:59 Unknown robot (identified by 'bot/' or 'bot-') 8230+150 368.09 MB 31 Jul 2007 - 17:56 Unknown robot (identified by 'crawl') 7042+295 80.30 MB 31 Jul 2007 - 23:11 Voila 1019+1417 10.54 MB 31 Jul 2007 - 23:34 Unknown robot (identified by 'spider') 1578+521 76.54 MB 31 Jul 2007 - 23:58 MSNBot-media 1544+134 89.92 MB 31 Jul 2007 - 23:19 Yahoo Slurp 718+267 8.66 MB 31 Jul 2007 - 23:40 Scooter 781+12 6.14 MB 30 Jul 2007 - 09:38 Yahoo! Slurp China 276+321 2.77 MB 31 Jul 2007 - 20:35 Unknown robot (identified by hit on 'robots.txt') 0+587 170.83 KB 31 Jul 2007 - 22:44 Internet Shinchakubin 531 35.34 MB 31 Jul 2007 - 22:07 WebCollage 250 7.38 MB 31 Jul 2007 - 23:03 Ask 148+56 11.92 MB 30 Jul 2007 - 15:02 Alexa (IA Archiver) 158+24 7.71 MB 31 Jul 2007 - 23:35 Lycos 33+21 1.81 MB 31 Jul 2007 - 17:33 Voyager 22+17 39.07 KB 30 Jul 2007 - 07:06 echo 4 336.99 KB 01 Jul 2007 - 00:14 The web archive (IA Archiver) 0+3 894 Bytes 23 Jul 2007 - 03:23 ZyBorg 2 164.08 KB 09 Jul 2007 - 08:05 Google (Images) 9148 46 % 31337 58.1 % Yahoo! 6431 32.3 % 13988 25.9 % Google 1944 9.7 % 2315 4.2 % Google (cache) 641 3.2 % 2079 3.8 % Windows Live 530 2.6 % 1799 3.3 % MSN Search 511 2.5 % 855 1.5 % AltaVista 317 1.5 % 317 0.5 % AOL 94 0.4 % 147 0.2 % Dogpile 46 0.2 % 47 0 % Ask 39 0.1 % 70 0.1 % Unknown search engines 32 0.1 % 51 0 % AllTheWeb 31 0.1 % 150 0.2 % ix quick 23 0.1 % 176 0.3 % Excite 13 0 % 106 0.1 % GoodSearch 12 0 % 19 0 % WebCrawler 11 0 % 11 0 % MyWebSearch 8 0 % 8 0 % AOL (fr) 5 0 % 10 0 % MetaCrawler (Metamoteur) 5 0 % 5 0 % DMOZ 4 0 % 4 0 % Stumbleupon (Social Bookmark) 4 0 % 50 0 % del.icio.us (Social Bookmark) 3 0 % 3 0 % Baidu 3 0 % 39 0 % Yandex 3 0 % 3 0 % Earth Link 2 0 % 2 0 % Search.com 2 0 % 2 0 % Vivisimo 2 0 % 2 0 % Netscape 2 0 % 4 0 % Clusty 2 0 % 2 0 % My Search 1 0 % 1 0 % Kartoo 1 0 % 1 0 % Web.de 1 0 % 1 0 % Aport 1 0 % 1 0 % Digg (Social Bookmark) 1 0 % 1 0 % Alexa 1 0 % 1 0 % Free.fr 1 0 % 1 0 % Seznam 1 0 % 1 0 % InfoSpace 1 0 % 1 0 % Tiscali 10 0 % Lycos 52 0 % alice.it 16 0 % Sapo 6 0 % Spray 1 0 % Interia.pl 1 0 % Go.com 146 0.2 % Sogou 2 0 % Top 25 Keywords 1508 different keywords Search Percent windows 665 3.2 % xp 627 3 % evil 618 2.9 % clown 617 2.9 % playboy 518 2.5 % bunny 497 2.4 % wallpapers 470 2.2 % screens 440 2.1 % wallpaper 392 1.9 % login 354 1.7 % vida 294 1.4 % tia 287 1.3 % boondock 229 1.1 % saints 229 1.1 % guerra 227 1.1 % patriotic 223 1 % blue 213 1 % akuma 203 0.9 % bfarber 195 0.9 % victorias 192 0.9 % secret 191 0.9 % killswitch 184 0.8 % logonxp 181 0.8 % engage 180 0.8 % file 173 0.8 % Other words 12207 59.2 % Some robot activity is going up, while some is going down, just like last month. I haven't really had time to analyze any of this much, nor have I played much with the Webmaster Tools (though I did sign up!). |
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Oct 8 2007, 04:13 AM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Customers Posts: 8 Joined: 5-June 07 From: Barcelona - Spain Member No.: 233 |
Hi Bfarber and others,
Is there any possiblity in the near future to upgrade CommunitySeo and/or "Links System" in order to have fURLs in that mod??? PabloC Madrid |
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